The Digital Agency Growth Podcast
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The Digital Agency Growth Podcast
How to Answer “What Am I Paying You For?” When Clients Can Use AI – with Leah Leaves
When clients start asking "What am I paying you for?", most assume they have a pricing problem on their hands when they're actually facing an operations problem.
Leah Leaves is the founder and CEO of Alderaan Operations, where she embeds operations directors and part-time digital project managers directly into remote agencies. In this conversation, she reveals what's happening when clients question an agency's value - asking for more deliverables, questioning reports, or wondering why they can't just use cheap tools themselves.
A few things we covered:
- Why the same operational bottlenecks agencies have always had are now happening at 10x-100x speed
- The exact question clients are asking agencies right now (and how the best agencies are answering it)
- How agencies are reinvesting time saved by AI into client experience, productized tools, and advisory services
- The "bionic org chart" framework for documenting what AI owns versus what humans own
- A practical system for turning meeting transcripts into searchable client context that actually gets used
- Why hiring people who want to stay static in their role is a feature, not a bug
- The shift from deliverables-based positioning to strategic marketing partner (and why AI makes this more urgent)
Timestamps:
- [00:00] Introduction: Leah Leaves and the state of agency operations
- [01:26] Same issues, 10x-100x speed: What's really changing with AI
- [03:37] The question clients are asking: "What am I paying you for?"
- [06:38] How agencies are answering the value question differently
- [11:15] Moving from execution to advisory: Selling thinking, not deliverables
- [15:30] The art of productive client meetings (and why most fail)
- [20:45] Hiring strategy: Finding people who want to grow vs. stay static
- [29:47] The bionic org chart: Documenting AI's role on your team
- [32:17] Practical AI implementation: Turning meeting notes into searchable knowledge
- [34:20] Ideas that wouldn't exist without reduced latency
- [35:29] Where to find Leah and learn more about operation
Alderaan Operations - Leah's company embedding ops directors in agencies
Leah Leaves on LinkedIn - Connect with Leah